SUBMISSION
OF AN INTERVIEW BY A JOURNALISM STUDENT
A relative of mine
who receives Emeritus told me
that because I am a journalism student I should try interviewing your
editor, Warren Allen Smith,who
has just been included in Contemporary
Authors. He has agreed that I could bring my recorder and that
he would print my article without changing a word (“S’help me, John
Dewey!”) and, very important, that he would not reveal my identity as
long as I did not spell “a lot” as one word. My imaginary audience is
the readership of the orange-colored New York Observer, which once
front-paged him. My real audience is the readership of Emeritus. What
follows (well, I did take a few small suggestions from Mr. Smith) is
all mine.
/s/ Jennifer Saltonstall (a
pseudonym)
Fairfield County,
Connecticut
Warren Allen
Smith lives on a five-block cobblestone street in the West
Village. His doorman said he was expecting me, but when I was about to
get off the elevator we met for the first time and he took me up to the
building’s 18th floor roof, showing me where in nearby apartment
buildings Ricki Lake, Jodi Foster,
Susan Brownmiller, James Gandolfini, Calvin Klein, Sandra Bernhardt,
Monica Lewinsky, and others live. In his own 125-unit building
live “Alias” star Victor Garber
and “Cabaret” stars Mary Louise Wilson
and John Benjamin Hickey (who
is visited often by the “Sex in the City” actress Sarah Jessica Parker, Smith said).
He pointed out where, at the nearby Hudson River, Herman Melville had worked in the
Customs House for two decades. We saw planes gliding in toward New
Jersey’s Newark Airport and noticed Staten Island and Ellis Island, the
Brooklyn Bridge, the Empire State Building, and his favorites, the
Chrysler and Woolworth skyscrapers. I also saw how close the World
Trade Towers were and heard how he had witnessed the entire 9/11
destruction, taking photos that were published as far away as in India.
He says he will become 81 in October, his thinning hair has some gray
on the sides with brown on the top, and he moves and talks like a
person somewhat younger. His eyes are brown, he favors black jeans, and
he says he is green-brown colorblind. He starts the day on the co-op’s
huge well-appointed roof, pruning rose bushes, reading the newspapers,
and watching the Queen Elizabeth 2 and other ships head up the Hudson
while planes fly overhead on their way to LaGuardia and ferry boats
that he said “resemble water bugs” carry commuters to and from New
Jersey to Manhattan.
On the day I met him, wasm (the name students and faculty
called him, for it used to be his Connecticut license plate—he even
uses it as his Email address.) was sporting what he calls “the
Greenwich Village uniform: all black.” His apartment was not what I
expected. It was contemporary in style, a Mondrian-like rug on the
floor, signed works on the walls (Picasso, Cocteau, Dali, Leger,
including a strikingly representational and nude oil painting of him
and a Costa Rican recording studio companion he had for four decades),
and a portrait in oil that he said was painted by Al Knaus of New Canaan. He also has Crime and Punishment, an oil
painting by Karen Santry, now
a professor at the Fashion Institute - instead of having her write an
evaluation of the book for his class at New Canaan High, he said she
could paint her thoughts. She gave him the painting and now lives and
teaches a few blocks away.
In the center
of the small studio apartment is a huge 65-gallon aquarium with blue
gouramis, a pleko, and a shark. In one corner is a four-poster-like bed
with a mirror above. I asked about the mirror, and he said only that
he’d bought the bed decades ago when the unique mattress had gel on one
side and water on the other.
In a prominent
place is an L-shaped desk that looked ideal for an author and atop
which is Gawd. Gawd is the
name of his Macintosh G-4 computer. When he asks, “Gawd, what time is
it?” a female voice seemingly comes out of nowhere and tells the time
or the date or moves the monitor screen up or down whenever he asks.
His second G-4 is called HeyZeus,
and an older Mac he uses to keep business records he calls HolySpook. It was my first
indication that he has a unique sense of humor about religion, for he
has written two books - Who’s Who in
Hell and Celebrities in Hell
- that describe Hell as “a silly theological invention,” one if it did
exist would contain the ten thousand eminent individuals whose brief
biographies he lists.
When I asked
if he is an atheist, he smiled, said no, and added that he had been a
Unitarian humanist from back in the 1940s before as a first sergeant he
had led his company onto Omaha Beach in Normandy. He had, therefore,
been a non-theist (his term) in a foxhole, had been a member of the
Unitarian societies in Westport and Stamford during his teaching in New
Canaan from 1954 to 1986, and is still a Unitarian, a pragmatist, and a
member of the New York Ethical Culture Society. The latter, he
explained, is where family members had assembled for the funerals or
memorials of Isaac Asimov and
New Canaan’s Norman Cousins.
To my
surprise, he went to his telephone answering device, clicked a button,
and the recorded message was “Hi, Warren, Arthur Clarke calling form Sri
Lanka, nothing important, but I suggest . . . .”
When I
inquired how he was contacted by Contemporary
Authors (Vol. 195), in which he has just been listed, he said he
didn’t really remember. He was sent a questionnaire, and he responded,
then forgot about it until he accidentally checked his local library in
the Sanford White court building known now as the Jefferson Market
Library, just across the street from where the Unitarian minister-poet e. e. cummings lived. I inquired how
he got listed in the various Who’s
Who books. In 1961, he said, while still teaching at New Canaan
High, he and his Costa Rican partner—the two met the first week that he
had hitchhiked here from Iowa in 1948—founded Variety Recording Studio,
that Standard & Poor’s listed them, and apparently this led to
their entry in Who’s Who in Business and Finance, then in The East, in
Entertainment, in America, and finally in The World. When not in school
for the 180-day-year, he ran the recording studio, one of the first
customers being Liza Minnelli,
then a senior at Scarsdale High School who was brought in for her first
demo by her pianist, Marvin Hamlisch. Smith’s partner died in 1988, he
sold the studio they had had for 30 years, and the new owner went
bankrupt in one year. Contemporary
Authors lists the partner and a Broadway actor as having been
intimate companions. It also lists the Liberal Party as his political
choice. He registered with that party because he liked it for having
run Franklin Delano Roosevelt when the Democratic Party had chosen not
to run him—he has almost never missed voting in any election, and he
says he has seldom voted for anyone who actually won. Although he
claims he has no political heroes, he did mention Robert LaFollette,
Adlai Stevenson, and Roosevelt (which he pronounced ROHZuhvelt to
differentiate it from Theodore’s family, the ROOZuhvelts. The
Roosevelts in the New Canaan Cemetery, he said, were related to
Theodore.)
When wasm’s
two kittens (Tico, slang for
Costa Rican; and Nano, short
for Fernando) became overly active, we escaped for lunch. At the
popular Village Den restaurant, Tashi,
the Nepalese-Tibetan waiter, brought Mr. Smith a zinfandel without his
asking, so it became evident he is a regular. As we ate and conversed,
a historian who writes about Allen Ginsberg and about the Stonewall
riots came by to say hello—I learned that Mr. Smith had been one of the
rioters, that school had just let out in June 1969, and that he had not
talked about his participation when in Connecticut because he was a
closeted gay then. In fact, he thought no one even suspected. But when
interviewed by a New York Times
reporter-friend of one of his ex-students, Pulitzer Prize-winning
photographer Ed Keating,
interviewed him (“Help, I’ve been shot by a Pulitzer Prize winner!” he
joked upon being photographed), he learned that students and possibly
teachers knew more than he thought they did. The Times story brought
many letters from ex-students. He was chased, he smiled, but was
entirely chaste during his entire career with students as well as
faculty members, absolutely no exceptions.
Smith took me
on a walking tour, showing me where e.
e. cummings and Djuna Barnes
lived in Patchin Place, where Thomas
Paine died in Grove Street, where Dylan Thomas drank himself to death
at the White Horse Tavern, where Alexander
Hamilton died in Jane Street (but not where the plaque says he
did), where Edgar Allan Poe’s
dispensary is, where Edna St. Vincent
Millay and later John Barrymore
lived, and the large auditorium where at New School University he has
twice been asked by the editor of The
Encyclopedia of Philosophy, Dr.
Paul Edwards, to m.c. his public lectures on Wilhelm Reich and existentialism.
Reich’s wife, Ilse Ollendorf,
taught German at New Canaan High School, Smith said.
Because of my
interest in journalism, I inquired when he had started his West Indian
column and why. It was to help the Premier of Dominica, Edward LeBlanc, who was fighting the
established paper at the time the island was obtaining its independence
from England. He had worked with Editor Royston Ellis (famous because as a
Liverpool poet he had worked with The Beatles) to establish a
pro-government journal. The column that appeared in The Educator was soon accepted in
21 other English-speaking West Indian islands. The only other New
Canaan member in the World Press Institute, he said, was CBS’s Richard Salant. Smith’s first
published book review was of Everyday
Religion. But readers of Walt
Whitman’s former paper, the Brooklyn
Eagle, objected to the negative review (“How everyday can you
get!”) of the book that was by a leading Episcopal official in
Brooklyn. He later became book review editor of The Humanist and has since written
for a dozen different journals including years of writing for Library Journal.
As we walked
along the Hudson riverfront, he pointed out the just completed Meier
building in which Calvin Klein
has an entire floor. Also, Martha
Stewart paid $6,000,000 for an entire floor, then flipped it for
$15,000,000 without moving in. In Smith’s building, Victor Garber, an actor seen in
“Alias,” just paid $1,400,000 for a penthouse, and James Gandolfini following a
divorce moved from 61 to 99 Jane Street, paying $1,050,000 for his new
place. Smith’s interest in economics, he explained, commenced in 10th
grade when he won an economics essay at Iowa State University, never
having studied the subject. At the high school, he taught an Adam Smith
macroeconomics class, some students of which still keep in touch with
him, he reported.
Smith, when I
remarked at how quickly he walks and talks, says he is hoping arthritis
in a left knee doesn’t slow him down in the next few years. He spends
almost no time with “old people,” saying he finds almost all of them
boring. He says he assumes the age of anyone he speaks with, and I had
to agree that he shoots the bull the same way my classmates and friends
do. As to what his secret is, he joked “mucho zinfandel,” then credited
his parents’ genes.
I asked what
disappointments he had had in life. He claimed to have had none of
major importance—he is disappointed that more of his colleagues do not
write in Emeritus. Only a few
have bought his books or commented upon them. He blames a Puritanical
society that made it impossible for him ever to have held hands or
embraced in public with lovers. He regrets having been born thirty
years too soon, for he would like to have utilized computers in his
teaching. Computers are obviously an important part of his life, for he
showed me how he is scanning several hundred letters that Harvard’s
Houghton Library has requested, and he has his two G-4 Macs hooked up
together so that, while he is scanning the letters on one machine, on
the other he is sending out invitations to women’s studies departments
to host Bangladesh dissident Taslima
Nasrin when she arrives from Sweden in November - he calls her
“the most dangerous woman in the world” because of her fight against
patriarchy. “If she wins the fight,” he says, “monotheistic religions
with their male God/Jehovah/Allah/Pope, etc., will lose their tax
exempt status and will be replaced by organizations of humanistic
societies.” I asked if it is dangerous to be so close to someone who
sounds like a female Salman Rushdie.
He said it is, that even though she travels incognito she has been
confronted by potential assassins. He edits her speeches, including a
recent one to the French Assembly, as well as her latest book. He also
has helped hide Ibn Warraq, a
leading critic of Islam, and in October he will meet Salman Rushdie at a time both will
be speaking in Rochester.
As for
mistakes he made in life, he failed to make a success out of Taursa, a
mutual fund he started in the early 1970s with two other Mensans—he
coined the name from Taurus and Ursa—although he and it passed the
requirements of the SEC and a securities dealers organization. He maybe
should have left teaching when his department members chose not to
retain him as chairman after many years during what he calls “the
golden age at New Canaan High,” for the department changed quickly. He
said he was offered the Darien English Department’s chairmanship but
turned it down. Maybe he should have moved back to Manhattan and been a
full-timer at his recording studio. He should have written about his
escapades in Morocco and elsewhere, using a pseudonym much as his
friend Royston Ellis in
Dominica and Sri Lanka had used Richard
Tressilian. He definitely should have traveled more, he said.
As for the
high points, he said one high point was hearing recently from a member
of the Russian Academy of Sciences that his book had been extremely
helpful in his research there. Another was getting listed in the Who’s Who books and Contemporary Authors. He takes
special pride in having been feted by an AIDS support group he helped
found in Costa Rica, meeting people who otherwise would likely have
died without the medications they received and being taken to lunch by
the Costa Rican cultural attaché. A high point, he said, was
getting interviewed on CNN by Jeanne
Moos and maintaining an Email friendship with Sir Arthur C. Clarke and Sir Ian McKellen. A high point was
working with faculty members Ilse
Ollendorf, Joe Sikorski, Dick Kepes, Matt Coyle, Anna Warm, Art Lane,
Bob Mosley, Jerry Renjilian, and
Harold Kenney. Another was tutoring a high school dropout from
Dominica, who recently received his B.A. at Sacred Heart and is
starting on his M.A. Another was footing the bill to rent Waveny for
the wedding of the son of one of the three siblings he brought here
from the West Indies, a person who now networks the computers in
Stamford for the World Wrestling Entertainment. Smith recently has
advised a frightened Pakistani-Afghan student as to how to transfer to
SUNY at Albany and also as to how to deal with his questioning
Islamism. He particularly enjoys responding to Emails from ex-students.
The high point of all high points, he summarized, is opening any
publication and finding his work has been published.
“What would
you do if you won $1,000,000 in the lottery?” he was asked. He said he
never buys lottery tickets and therefore has saved a million dollars,
which is better than winning. If he did win a lot of money, he said he
would cancel all outstanding loans he has made to friends (and he
already has written off “six figures of bad debts over the years,” he
claims, including recording studio bills); pay off a neighbor’s $90,000
credit card debt and help her get back into interior design; pay off
his policeman friend’s mortgage and set up an education fund for the
cop’s 6-year-old daughter; buy an apartment for his cybergeek Peter and pay Peter’s maintenance
for five years; and make sure Jimmy the ex-Marine who now subsists on
$800/month has sufficient funds for the next five years. He also would
spend $15,000 to recondition the piano at the 4th Unitarian
Universalist Society that Henry Steinway personally designed. Buy an
iMac for the Nepalese student, his waiter at a restaurant, and one for
the Pakistanti-Afghan he Emails in Albany, also helping with their
tuition. Buy ads for his two books in The
New York Review of Books and The
New York Times, neither of which has reviewed the books. Send
500 copies of his books to libraries around the world. What for
himself? If any is left, the rest could go into his stock portfolio “to
short issues until the Bush dynasty leaves Washington.” “Oh,” he said
with a smile, “and some catnip for my kittens.”
He seemed so
effervescent I hesitated to tell him I had another appointment, for he
looked ready to take me at midnight to an East Village disco where he
says he wears a Harley Davidson vest. I promised to look for his
article, a book review about Greenwich Village, in a forthcoming
Villager, then bade goodbye.
At a nearby
park, I sat on a bench for a while, going over in my mind what had
transpired. This interview had been like a whirlwind in a hurricane. He
jumps from idea to idea, so it was good to have taped everything, When
I arose, I vowed, yes, to be a journalist, particularly when Smith
mentioned that The New York Times’
Red Smith (no relation),
ex-student Don Souden, and Mike Lupica in New Canaan are or had
been his favorites, too.